Humber Bicycle Serial Numbers

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When I begin work on a new bike one of the first things I do is investigate the bike itself. I’m interested in the history of the maker. With a little research I can often tease out details from a variety of sources and compile them together to create a meaningful biography. Sometimes information is easily had and other times I have to get creative with the search for enlightenment. Serial numbers, for instance, would seem to have a great deal more meaning than they often do. To take just one example, a Rosetta Stone for Peugeot serial numbers before the 1980’s has yet to be uncovered; there are some who believe their serial numbers are purely random in nature! (I believe there was some sort of system involved, but whether or not one can interpret models or dates or anything else from those digits has yet to be determined.)

The thing is, serial numbers and other such minutiae don’t seem to have occupied the minds of many bicycle builders. I sort of understand that thinking. Bike companies came and went, merged, got purchased, and dissolved. Who on earth would maintain a library of details, especially in those pre-internet days? As individuals close to operations passed away, so too did their personal recollections. Day-to-day operational records were kept at the time to maintain orders and sales, perhaps archived for a while in decidedly non-archival boxes and file drawers – but no one ever imagined that these purely functional transportation devices would turn into collectable objects d’art. Who would have ever imagined that sales brochures, catalogs, build sheets, and other ephemera would have any historical importance? I’m sure the furthest thing from their minds was that anyone would ever be interested in tracking down the history or lineage. I just imagine their incredulity at such an idea: It’s a bicycle, for Pete’s sake!

I’m always amused when television shows make research look so simple. Great detectives type something into Google – let’s say it’s the name of a bike company – and immediately get a list of everything there is to know about it. They generally project this information up onto a large screen so that everyone on the team can see the incredibly detailed history, complete with photographs of the founders and biographical details of everyone involved in the fabrication. But of course, television and real life tend to deviate pretty dramatically and when I begin to research a bike there is seldom a single source of information. In fact, because the internet is so democratic, information must almost always be first viewed as somewhat suspect. Unlike books and journals of the past where details were generally meticulously (if not always accurately) researched, any well meaning person can publish memories, opinions, and hogwash, and represent it all as “pure fact.” Such has been the case with my ongoing research into the builder of the Freschi, for instance, and I still haven’t been able to reasonably make any sort of conclusions, relying as I have upon anecdotal and often erroneously repeated story.

Rough grinding the frame before bonderizing, Elswick plant, Barton-Up0n-Humber, 1937.

So now I begin to examine a British roadster built by Elswick and the foundation of my understanding began with a misunderstanding. I believed that Elswick, as such, had not survived the second World War, and that the company was acquired to become Elswick-Hopper sometime in the late forties. A friend and fellow enthusiast also believed this story. I have, however, begun to reach different conclusions. One source that I came across indicated that the motorized branch of Elswick (they produced both motorized and pedal-powered two-wheelers) was not profitable enough to continue. The decision was made to focus entirely on bicycles, and perhaps this event helped to precipitate my own imprecise understanding.

I began my journey through Elswick history with the facts as I know them. First, the frame has a serial number located near the top of the seat tube, on the drive side. The number, 38519, has a capital letter “G” engraved above it. I have located a chart purporting to identify Elswick bicycle manufacture by year and if it is accurate, the “G” indicates a build year of 1925 or 1949. I am fairly confident that it is not a 1925 model, so I have a general starting point of 1949.

The rear wheel has a Sturmey-Archer three-speed hub and mounted to the bars is a Sturmey-Archer three/four speed trigger shifter, model GC2, patent number 498820. The hub can be conclusively dated to 1948 and the GC2 trigger shifter was introduced in 1948-49. Presuming that these are original items, they support a 1949 date for the bike.

The end of the forties and the start of the fifties are a sort of transitional period for Elswick Cycles, Ltd, and as it turns out this is a fortuitous date that helps to inform my research. On Wednesday, July 16, 1952, trademark registration was filed for The Elswick Cycles Limited Barton on Humber Fortiter, Defendit Triumphans . This appellation, which appears on my head badge, was first used September 6, 1928, and first used commercially March 20, 1946.Bartun-upon-Humber was, and is, a small township in north Lincolnshire, pleasantly situated in the late thirties amidst a quiet qgricultural countryside in which time must have seemed to be standing still. Within the town itself flourished one of the largest cycle manufacturing concerns in Britain – Mssrs. Elswick-Hopper, or as these two well known names were at the time still preserved as separate entities: F. Hopper and Co., Ltd., and Elswick Cycles, Ltd.

Very briefly, the history of Elswick and Elswick-Hopper begins in 1880, when Fred Hopper hung out a shingle. In 1896, Hopper sold out to an investment company, A.B.C. Cycle Fittings Company, Ltd. and set up a new factory called Hull and Barton Cycle Manufacturing Company the following year. In 1898, Hopper and his partners purchased back the original business and in 1910 purchased the patents, trademarks and goodwill of the bankrupt Elswick Cycle Company of Newcastle. Much as Chevrolet did with their GMC product line, Hopper planned to market two separate brands of Hopper and Elswick. Fred Hopper Jr. took over as managing director in 1925 when his father passed away and the firm struggled through the thirties. In 1958, new management took control and brought in an Italian design company to develop new models. For much of this time, the firm built most of their own components, but by the 60’s these items were being brought in from overseas for assembly at Barton. The 70’s brought Coventry Eagle, eventually changing their name to Falcon. Along with the change came a move from Barton to a modern facility in Brigg. The London Gazette filed a short paragraph announcing the dissolution of the company on 8 September 1999, but all production had long since ceased by this point.

Next: More about Elswick and I begin the restoration

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Year range:Serial:
1947-1955, Nottingham
1955-1964(?), 'RA..., RB....'No photo
1963-1969, bottom bracket
1970-1972/3, seat lug + dropout on SC/GP
Year range:Serial:
1973 - Grand Prix, Super Course, Grand Sports only
1973-1982+ Standardized
1983-1986+ Raleigh USA (Japan/Taiwan)
SBDU Team Professional (Ilkeston)
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1947-1955, Nottingham:

Convention #1

Convention #2

Convention #2

Serial location:
Serials stamped on side of seat lug (men's), front of seat lug (ladies', not shown), or bottom bracket (men's and ladies,' not shown), positioning of serial has no relation to serial system - there does not appear to be rhyme or reason relating to positioning. Samples shown above.

Serial convention:
Three serial conventions are used during this period:

Convention #1 (1947-1955):
6 digits followed by the letter 'P' or 'T.' 'P' serials used until and during 1950. 'T' serials replaced 'P' serials sometime mid-year 1950. Digits or letters in serial do NOT relate to month/year/day codes; only the serial in whole determines the year.

NOTE: This numbering system apparently ran until 1955, possibly longer, and concurrently with the newer serial system that debuted in 1948 (shown below). Raleighs of any model may be seen with either serial number type during this era.

Convention #2 (1948-195?):
4-5 digits followed by two letters (or, for the 28'-wheel models, two letters followed by 4-5 digits). e.g.: '12345AB,' or 'AB12345.' Serial 'rolls over' when numerals are used up - without rhyme or reason relating to month or year - in the same fashion as an odometer. This convention might have been used in 1947 as well, however, we have not found any Raleigh examples from 1947 so far that exhibit this serial system.

Convention #3 (1954-?):
This convention remains still largely unidentified, though it appears to follow an identical format to convention #2; e.g., '12345RA.' However, the first letter in the serial, 'R,' appears to remain for the entire run of this system. The exact specifics of this system remain a mystery.

NOTE:
Some of the following information regarding Serial Convention #1 is derived from the Nottinghamshire Archive papers, and may therefore be approximated.

The entirety of the second serial chart is of our own research and are estimates - as accurate we can practically make them - of the serial numbers from the year and serial in question.

Convention #1 (1947-1955):

1947437689P to 556893P (unconfirmed)
1948556894P to 695050P (unconfirmed)
1949Serials 695051P and approximately up to and past 730807P (a serial known to exist on a '49 Clubman)
1950'P' serials past (and perhaps somewhat earlier then) '800000P' AND 'T' serials '000001T' (?) to '151178T.' Last year for 'P' serials.
1951151179T to 367368T (unconfirmed)
1952367369T - termination unknown
1953No data
1954No data
1955Serials in the '591---T' range and up to an unknown terminus.

Convention #2 (1948-1955):

1948.....AJ through .....AP (?)
1949.....AP through .....A?
1950.....A? through .....AX

Serials '...AV,' '...AW,' and '...AX' may stand for both a late 1950 model, or early '51s built with frames built the previous year

1951.....AV through .....BG
1952.....BG through .....BI
1953.....BI through .....B?
1954No data
1955No data

1955-1964(?) Serial System:
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In addition to the two serial types above, a third system appears to have been established in 1955, or at the earliest, 1954; terminating in the early-mid '60s - the most recent example I have on hand is from 1962, though I suspect the official cutoff may date to 1963 or '64.

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This system follows a similar pattern to Convention #2 above, and uses a prefix or suffic of 'RA' or 'RB,' followed by 4 or 5 digits, but never exceeding 5. Location is on the side of the seat lug, as with the earlier serials above.

By 1961/62, an additional-single letter suffix was added, presumably as an identifier of the factory the frame was produced, for every single example I've seen is represented by the letter 'N,' which is not unreasonable to assume stands for Nottingham. Neither it is not out of the question that other letters may exist, representing Raleigh's other factories.

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One may assume that 'RA' serial numbers began with 'RA00001' (or RA1000), and continue until 'RA 99999 N,' at which point the system was reset to 'RB 00001 N' (or RB 10000 N). This seems to have happened around 1962, and it is reasonable to assume that all 'RB' symbols represent bikes produced post-1961.

1963-1969 Bottom Bracket Serial System (excluding Carlton/Worksop):

1963-1969 BB serial

Serial convention:

This serial system replaced the 'RA' series that preceeded it and was the first major system to use numerals exclusively.

The system consists of a seven-digit serial - beginning with #1000000 in 1963 - running up to the #4600000-#4800000 range by 1969, at which point, it was discontinued.

EXCEPTION: This system is NOT to be confused with the seat-tube system which replaced it in 1970; which ran until 1973. Numbers will be duplicated between each system.

Serial location:

These serials will be located on the bottom bracket on both ladies' and men's Superbes, Sprites, and Sports. The extent of this system's use on other models is unknown.

BB photo courtesy 'w1gfh' - Bikeforums.net

1963-1969 BB serial:

1967?
19684?00000-4200000
19684200000-4400000
19694400000-4600000+

1970-1972/3 Seat Lug and Dropout Serial Systems (excluding Carlton/Worksop):

Seat lug serial number, mens'

Seat lug serial number, ladies'

Dropout serial number, Super Course and Grand Prix

(Alternate serial system shown)

Serial convention:

At present, I have insufficent information about the serial numbers from this era to construct a definite chart of every example used during this time period. At least 4 or 5 different systems were used. I have uncovered two of them to a reasonable extent; both of which ran concurrently to each other during this time period:

'System 1970:'
The first system consists of 7 digits, beginning with 1000000. This system showed its face in 1970 (I have named it accordingly), and was phased out in mid-1973.

EXCEPTIONS: Evidence indicates that a handful of '70-'71 frames - or their lugs, depending on when the stamping was done - may not have been released from the factory until 1973, and were consequently decaled as 1973 models. This is the only explanation I can suggest regarding this issue.

'System 1972:'
A second 5-6 digit serial system was introduced in 1972, overlapped onto some early 1973 models with NO rhyme or reason, and died a quick death before 1973 was out. This system never exeeded 6 digits, and the reason for its introduction remains a mystery. Regardless, it is here, and it will stay.

This system INCLUDES the Grand Prix and Super Course, despite the seven-digit serials (as mentioned in the next system, below) running concurrently on these models.

Serial location:

The serials from this era, specifically for general production machines (Sports, Superbe, Sprite), will be located on the seat lug. Twenty/Folders will have the serial marked on the outside of the left dropout, and some Grand Prix models have it in this location as well. Unknown where they are located on DL-1s.

Keep in mind that the serials used for Raleigh Choppers - while apparently a nearly identical 7-digit system - do not corrispond well with those of the larger bicycles. For now, it should be assumed that the Choppers' serial system is separate (until proven otherwise).

Men's models will have the stamping on the top of the lug, ladies' frames will have the serial stamped to the front of the lug.

Addendums and warnings:

Both of these systems are often covered deep in paint - do not be surprised if you only find 5 or 6 digits!

Given the obvious duplication of serials with bikes produced prior to 1970, we suggest that you use the frame's decals as a supplimentary era guide - please visit our Raleigh Sports Visual ID page for this purpose.

Please understand that this particular chart is a rough draft. Use in conjunction with Sturmey-Archer rear hubs and frameset decals as additional guides.

All of the serial cutoffs are approximated. Please allow for overlap.

System '1970':

19701000000-1999999
19712000000-2700000
19722800001-3800000
Early 19733800001-?

System '1972':

1972 and early 1973-decal frames:67***(?)-900000

1973 Serial System - Grand Prix, Super Course, and Grand Sports:
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Left rear dropout serial, Grand Prix

Left rear dropout serial, Grand Sports

Serial convention:

An additional 7-digit serial system was used in 1973, appearing only on the Grand Prix (including Gazelle production), Super Course, and Grand Sports.

These serials are instantly recognizable, as the first digit is always zero, and low-number serials (i.e., '9181') will have a prefix of as many zeros required to make the serial seven digits - in other words, '0009181' - such as the example Grand Sports shown above.

Keep in mind that this serial system - though used on these three models in 1973 - are not unique to them during this year. Some examples may use one of the two systems listed above, or the later 1973+ variant.

Serial location:

Outside of left dropout.

Grand Prix dropout photo courtesy 'ianbrettcooper' - Bikeforums.net
Grand Sports dropout photo courtesy 'thumpic' - Bikeforums.net

Serial system:

19730000001 through 0999999 (?)
(End cutoff not known)

1973-1982+ 'Standardized' Serial System

Seat-tube serial

BB-shell serial

Serial location:
Serials stamped on rear of seatpost (both men's and ladies' models) near top on most models; sample shown at left. Some examples may be stamped on the bottom bracket as on the right.

Serial convention:

Two letters, followed by a series of six digits:

First letter - production factory:
N=Nottingham
W=Worksop (1967-1980), Nottingham after 1981, following closure of Worksop factory. Discontinued in 1990.
E=Enid (USA)
G=Gazelle
M=Malaysia
R=Canada
D=Ireland
H=Handsworth (U.K.)
S=Unknown, but in existence
B=Unknown, but reported
Second letter - approximate month of frame manufacture:
Jan=A
Feb=B/C
Mar=D
Apr=E/F
May=G
Jun=H/I/J
Jul=K
Aug=L
Sep=M
Oct=N/O
Nov=P/Q/R
Dec=S
First numeral (third digit in sequence):
Year of manufacture;
'3' = 1973, '4' = 1974, '5' = 1975, '6' = 1976, etc.

All following digits:
Unit # in production run

Example:

A cycle manufactured in Nottingham, in the month of March of the year 1975, would feature the serial 'ND5------.'

For instance, the photo shown above, to the left, bears the serial 'NL9------,' indicating a machine made in August 1979, at the Nottingham factory. The example to the left is 'WR0------,' which would indicate Worksop manufacture in November of 1980 (and most likely a 1981 model due to the late month).

1983-1986+ Raleigh USA Serial System

Raleigh USA BB serial location

Used only on Japanese and Taiwanese frames, plus the Nottingham Team Pro '555'.

Serial location:
Serial stamped on bottom bracket (both men's and ladies' models); sample shown above.

Serial convention:
First digit of serial = year (e.g.: '4'=1984)
Second digit (letter) of serial = ? (e.g.: '?'=?)
Third digit of serial = ? (e.g.: '?'=?)

Note:
Due to advance production for next-year models, some serials may indicate a production year backdated one year prior to the actual model year of the bike in question.

Detailed identification pages for steel Raleigh USA racing-series models are planned.


SBDU Ilkeston serial

SBDU serials are sequential, and do not indicate year or date of manufacture. Use the decals and components of the frame as your guide. All SBDU frames were built in Raleigh's Ilkeston factory.

Alternately, a photo registry of SBDU Team Professionals can be found at the TI Raleigh Team Professional Yahoo! Group, which may help to narrow down a given frame's era:

Serial Location:
Stamped on bottom bracket.

SBDU serial photo courtesy Hilary Stone

Serial convention:

'SB' followed by four numbers, sequential to production order.